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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.02.03 19:04:23 -
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Anslo wrote:Yeah shoot the ancient advanced culture that isn't aggressive unless attacked.
Brilliant.
You're an idiot.
As Mr. Soter stated in his first post, "In any other case in the course of civilized human foreign relations, uninvited surveillance of military resources by a foreign power is an act of war."
They are being aggressive. You don't need to fire a gun to be aggressive.
As for being an "ancient advanced culture," that is irrelevant.
Mr. Soter, I agree with the majority of the message in your post, though I feel it would have been better for you to have addressed this petition to CONCORD and all of the civilized nations rather than just your own. Had your petition been directed towards the entire interstellar community instead of just your president, then I would sign. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1199
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Posted - 2015.02.03 19:12:56 -
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I very much do give a damn about issues that affect my home. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1199
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Posted - 2015.02.03 19:17:09 -
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You aren't the one who gets to determine what those issues are, "kid". |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1207
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Posted - 2015.02.08 19:01:27 -
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They spy on us, and construct cloaked infrastructure in our territory. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1212
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:21:39 -
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Spying and constructing hidden outposts behind enemy lines: Apparently not considered aggressive action.
I hope you won't mind then, when Amarr goes and sends unmarked scouts into your nation's space and constructs hidden spying facilities while analyzing your defensive infrastructure. It's not aggressive, really.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Violence and outright show of power is not always the right way; knowledge is the key. That's something the Jovian Empire knew and made use of.
Yes. Knowledge is one of the best weapons you can use. Hence why the sleepers are doing it to us. And with the knowledge that pacifists will do nothing to stop them, they'll have all the time in the world to gather the intel they need for whenever they do decide to act violently. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1212
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Posted - 2015.02.09 21:43:08 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:I do not take it as aggressive because the Jovians have, in the past, only done things to help us. If these structures are there because of them, I feel more comfortable than not.
The Jove have done many things, but it was to help themselves, not us.
Quote:They have been here for a long time and have not been used in any malicious manner against us.
Aside from spying on us. If these structures are Jovian, then they have been engaged in a long, protracted campaign of unwelcome surveillance. We've known they used cloaked ships in the past, but entire stations like this, built without our knowledge across the entire cluster?
If the structures are Jovian, then our response should be against them, not just the sleepers. I'm pretty sure CONCORD did not give the Jove free reign to engage in this level of espionage against the other member states. Our governments are certainly not given license to do so. It's a violation of the Yulai Convention. The Operation Highlander breaches caused enough of a stir, and that was very minor by comparison. Something this big demands an immediate response. If these stations are Jovian, rather than sleeper, then our governments need to demand their immediate removal and a full accounting of whatever intelligence the Jove have obtained through them. For a start.
It'd be a lot better if these structures were sleeper-built. Because if they're Jovian, then CONCORD has been severely undermined by one of its founding members. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1217
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Posted - 2015.02.10 08:50:16 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:
The Jove have done many things, but it was to help themselves, not us.
My point was and is that the Jovians have never hindered us; the gift of the capsule, though we know not their motivations for doing so and which could indeed be quite selfish, has spurred the development of our entire way of life.
Spurred it for the worse. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1300
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:46:39 -
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The cloaks on the structures have worn off. They're massive towers.
And wormholes have begun appearing, with sleepr structures outside of them. Jovian battleships have been spotted near these and open fire without provocation when approached.
So much for the pacifists claiming these things are peaceful. This demands a response, from all our governments. CONCORD needs to start doing its job. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1300
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:06:10 -
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I edited a link in to that post. Your own corp member approached in a logistics vessel, with no weapons and all drones in bay. She was chased down and destroyed. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1300
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:15:04 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/concord-assembly-places-genesis-fleet-and-ded-on-high-alert/ |
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